tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post114228174398379743..comments2023-11-05T05:15:29.383-05:00Comments on graphicallyspeaking: UI Inflections, pt 1: ClearType, IE 7, and BoxelySree Kotayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142446657534546082006-03-15T13:17:00.000-05:002006-03-15T13:17:00.000-05:00Yeah - but I don't think that people care (or even...Yeah - but I don't think that people care (or even notice) the sub-pixel fringing. They complain about "blurry" v. "not", not about color bleedSree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142438846055447202006-03-15T11:07:00.000-05:002006-03-15T11:07:00.000-05:00"Flash will indeed not do sub-pixel antialiasing i..."Flash will indeed not do sub-pixel antialiasing if ClearType is not enabled".<BR/><BR/>Right - thats what I thought I said. I don't mind that they still honor the movie's font smoothing hints independent of system setting, but don't use ClearType-ish smoothing (subpixel with varying colors used for antialiasing vs. monochromatic pixels). <BR/><BR/>I guess what I'm saying is classic antialiased text looks "ok" on crt or lcd. Cleartype approach is just wrong on some crt's so should not be used unless OS setting has it enabled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142381618169795482006-03-14T19:13:00.000-05:002006-03-14T19:13:00.000-05:00greg - Yeah, that was part of the question, I gues...greg - Yeah, that was part of the question, I guess: what does "OS" look mean when even Microsoft isn't providing "one" look?<BR/><BR/>I think its really the "older" (let's be nice and call them "tenured") folks who care - I think the Web and Games have taught hundreds of millions of people to deal with some BIG differences in visual appearance and function.<BR/><BR/>I think it *is* important that the core grammars of interaction remain, though.<BR/><BR/>I'm surprised you cite OS X as having a uniform look - did you mean the original white-on-white, brushed metal, <A HREF="http://www.chaosmint.com/screenshots/garageband/window3.jpg" REL="nofollow">wood paneling</A>, or the new flat grey/blue?<BR/><BR/>They pop in new behaviour, locations, animations, etc. ALL the time. Its (usually) well done - but its RARELY consistent.<BR/><BR/>I think they (at least at the OS level) started the trend - just seems like the blind acolytes of their kooky religion don't notice ...<BR/><BR/>(that last part was a joke :))Sree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142379652040220072006-03-14T18:40:00.000-05:002006-03-14T18:40:00.000-05:00We have gotten mostly positive feedback on the Tri...We have gotten mostly positive feedback on the Triton UI, but after my <A HREF="http://journals.aol.com/gregsblog/aimInfo/entries/549" REL="nofollow">blog post</A> on Saturday about what makes for a beautiful UI, I have heard back from a few users who mentioned that we need to build a "skin" to make us look like we fit into the OS. <BR/><BR/>Personally, the uniform look of OS X is quite appealing if only because there are no surprises. Of course the bad news is, there are no surprises. There is little inovation and people thinking outside the box wrt the OS X UI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142376736298368642006-03-14T17:52:00.000-05:002006-03-14T17:52:00.000-05:00corey, that's not strictly true (as in, its false ...corey, that's not strictly true (as in, its false :P) - Flash will indeed not do sub-pixel antialiasing if ClearType is not enabled, but it doesn't actually respect the users's choice, for example if they turn "font smoothing" off. <BR/><BR/>It will ALWAYS be antialiased.Sree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142351026399918282006-03-14T10:43:00.000-05:002006-03-14T10:43:00.000-05:00Corey, "Cleartype on my CRT looks like poo on a ...Corey,<BR/> "Cleartype on my CRT looks like poo on a stick... But looks great at home on my LCD."<BR/><BR/>Of course...perhaps monitor detection could play a role in doing any "nonrespectful" actions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142345814780701052006-03-14T09:16:00.000-05:002006-03-14T09:16:00.000-05:00Any application deciding to leverage Cleartype-lik...Any application deciding to leverage Cleartype-like anti-aliasing should really respect the global setting of the user. <BR/><BR/>Flash 8 for example (well, their Saffron engine internally) will respect the global OS setting and use their Cleartype-alike only when Cleartype is enabled.<BR/><BR/>Cleartype on my CRT looks like poo on a stick... But looks great at home on my LCD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142312331286846142006-03-13T23:58:00.000-05:002006-03-13T23:58:00.000-05:00Sree, I think this is exactlly the thing that ne...Sree,<BR/> I think this is exactlly the thing that needs to be done. If the system can handle it we need to use it, even if not a default. I've owned my laptop for about 2 months and completely forgot about Cleartype, now that it is enabled my experience is a whole lot better, and that is what we are about right? Delivering the ultimate or best experience for the member.<BR/><BR/>Just my personal opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142307871343841922006-03-13T22:44:00.000-05:002006-03-13T22:44:00.000-05:00pretty funny, hunh? imitation is the flattery...pretty funny, hunh? imitation is the flattery...Sree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1142297591892553462006-03-13T19:53:00.000-05:002006-03-13T19:53:00.000-05:00The Office 12 window has the same large titlebar i...The Office 12 window has the same large titlebar icon like Boxely apps do!rizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13422487512086593119noreply@blogger.com