tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post114100970122632395..comments2023-11-05T05:15:29.383-05:00Comments on graphicallyspeaking: Javascript Applications, pt 1Sree Kotayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-8523754026562362792008-11-28T11:05:00.000-05:002008-11-28T11:05:00.000-05:00Wholesale lingerie directly from China?As a famous...Wholesale lingerie directly from China?<BR/>As a famous brand and specialized manufacturer of sexy clothing in China. Charmingirl supply the international market with fashionable sexy lingerie and sexy costume since 2002. With advanced technology,all our products are of high quality. 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My favorite designed language, in this context, is postscript - very clean and consistent. Though I *hate* that its a stack machine - the attributes I like about it don't necessarily require that.Sree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141153739133200002006-02-28T14:08:00.000-05:002006-02-28T14:08:00.000-05:00Hey nicolas! How hoes it? :)"Wierd" is pretty fri...Hey nicolas! How hoes it? :)<BR/><BR/>"Wierd" is pretty frikkin' funny, but my favorite is still "<A HREF="http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/" REL="nofollow">Whitespace</A>" (on that <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages" REL="nofollow">page</A>, too) - That's how I feel when I program in Python :P<BR/><BR/>Any you're exactly right about flexibility: give people a hammer, and the first they do is put out their eyes :)Sree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141138747345110612006-02-28T09:59:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:59:00.000-05:00BTW,I thought you would love to look at:esoteric l...BTW,<BR/>I thought you would love to look at:<BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages" REL="nofollow">esoteric languages</A>.<BR/>look at the one called "Weird".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141133538504358682006-02-28T08:32:00.000-05:002006-02-28T08:32:00.000-05:00A bit more food about JavaScript:An important thin...A bit more food about JavaScript:<BR/>An important thing I forgot to mention is compilation. The strength of JavaScript is its flexibility. But because of its flexibility there are very few things the compiler can assume and detect... Sometimes it is a programmer error, sometimes it is a pure typo. (which you may say, is also a programmer error)<BR/>For example, calling a function that does not exist or passing wrong parameters is not detected at compilation time. It will be detected when the program is running and potentially bring the whole application to a halt :( A lot of these mistakes would have been detected in a less flexible language like C++ during compilation.<BR/>I've noted that because of this, we're probably spending 30% more time debugging a JavaScript application than a C++ one of same size.<BR/>so yes, for computing, language matters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141099515184403892006-02-27T23:05:00.000-05:002006-02-27T23:05:00.000-05:00I feel your pain with JavaScript.We're using it ex...I feel your pain with JavaScript.<BR/>We're using it extensively here to build one of our app, which involves a lot of different features and in particular a whole photo sharing application. As we were developing it and facing more and more challenges with JavaScript I started to question if it was a good idea in the end. The problem I saw using JavaScript is that it is too flexible. And programmers tend to abuse this flexibility... As the application grows, it becomes very hard to maintain and debug. One of the solutions to this problem was to enforce the same rules than we have in C++. Meaning, every object should have an interface, no global variable, minimize attaching new members on the fly, etc. Also we added the notion of namespace in JavaScript to prevent code collisions (since every file is being merged into a big one).<BR/><BR/>It helped us a lot but I am still scared for the future. We have a very modular application (modules being written in JavaScript and communication together with JavaScript) and I am not entirely sure yet how easy it will be to update some modules and not others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141067871849496262006-02-27T14:17:00.000-05:002006-02-27T14:17:00.000-05:00trekker: I think that's a fair point about portabi...trekker: I think that's a fair point about portability, and as you say, FAR more essential for web apps and the like. <BR/><BR/>anonymous: Bite me :)Sree Kotayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637645734999157782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141057052623341082006-02-27T11:17:00.000-05:002006-02-27T11:17:00.000-05:00You mean, language is actually just a tool? Man ho...You mean, language is actually just a tool? Man how come I never thought of that...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141054259344288702006-02-27T10:30:00.000-05:002006-02-27T10:30:00.000-05:00p.s. Of course there is no more IE for Mac but you...p.s. Of course there is no more IE for Mac but you get my drift...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21367055.post-1141022456042993512006-02-27T01:40:00.000-05:002006-02-27T01:40:00.000-05:00Your post brought back memories of an Automata cla...Your post brought back memories of an Automata class where we had to use a bare bones programming language (with only assignment, increment, decrement operators and a control loop structure) to compute Turing-compatible functions <I>(shudder)</I><BR/><BR/>I think portability is more important than you give it credit for. How easy is it to turn around AOL Explorer for the Mac using Boxley-JScript. Maybe it <I>is</I> easy - I'm not sure but seems like we have some OS layer dependencies...but that will almost always be the case except for the virtual machine pattern a la <A HREF="http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/index.jsp" REL="nofollow">Java and Swing</A>. But then again, as you say, its a tradeoff -- even though Java UI toolkits have come a long way since the dreaded AWT, they're still painfully slow!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com